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	<title>Comments on: MLB Economics 2.0 -According to Ryan Braun, Hanley Ramirez, Troy Tulowitzki and Evan Logoria</title>
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		<title>By: littlearth</title>
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		<dc:creator>littlearth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 05:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why is it that Jones came out as the highest paid athlete in this post is beyond me! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is it that Jones came out as the highest paid athlete in this post is beyond me! <img src='http://ryanspoon.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: OxjdlkTaylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>OxjdlkTaylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In ffice right now will go through this latter.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;regards&lt;br&gt;freanch&lt;br&gt;______________________________________________&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oforu.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Buy Aion Kinah&lt;/a&gt; &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eing.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Buy Aion Kinah&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In ffice right now will go through this latter.</p>
<p>regards<br />freanch<br />______________________________________________<br /><a href="http://www.oforu.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Buy Aion Kinah</a> | <a href="http://www.eing.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Buy Aion Kinah</a></p>
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		<title>By: Police Sunglasses</title>
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		<dc:creator>Police Sunglasses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for me Andruw Jones was a highly paid athlete but he&#039;s not worthy of his salary.. I hate how he moves recently..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for me Andruw Jones was a highly paid athlete but he&#39;s not worthy of his salary.. I hate how he moves recently..</p>
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		<title>By: James More</title>
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		<dc:creator>James More</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys,&lt;br&gt;Cool Site!&lt;br&gt;I have found a widget that displays the cost per game for the major league baseball teams.&lt;br&gt;This little widget converts a super nice swivel dataset into a widget through a few calculations and conversions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think you might like it:-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youcalc.com/apps/1219419071292&quot;&gt;http://www.youcalc.com/apps/1219419071292&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s easy to put on your blog or your website.&lt;br&gt;Keep trucking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,<br />Cool Site!<br />I have found a widget that displays the cost per game for the major league baseball teams.<br />This little widget converts a super nice swivel dataset into a widget through a few calculations and conversions.</p>
<p>I think you might like it:-)<br /><a href="http://www.youcalc.com/apps/1219419071292">http://www.youcalc.com/apps/1219419071292</a></p>
<p>It&#39;s easy to put on your blog or your website.<br />Keep trucking!</p>
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		<title>By: baseball general managers salaries</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] seen an influx of very talented, very young players under 27 - and general managers are forced tohttp://ryanspoon.com/blog/2008/05/26/mlb-economics-20-according-to-ryan-braun-hanley-ramirez-troy-tu...Read &quot;USA Today: Baseball&#039;s oldest bird dogs refuse to give up the hunt&quot; at The Old Red Guard [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mlb the show</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Free Agency Has ChangedGreat analysis and data showing how mlb free agency and spending has shiftedhttp://ryanspoon.com/blog/2008/05/26/mlb-economics-20-according-to-ryan-braun-hanley-ramirez-troy-tu...NJ JON GIVES US THE SHOW SCOOP - New York PostSince they&amp;39re the moneymen, mlb will control 50000 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Free Agency Has ChangedGreat analysis and data showing how mlb free agency and spending has shiftedhttp://ryanspoon.com/blog/2008/05/26/mlb-economics-20-according-to-ryan-braun-hanley-ramirez-troy-tu&#8230;NJ JON GIVES US THE SHOW SCOOP &#8211; New York PostSince they&#38;39re the moneymen, mlb will control 50000 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Your Own Talent Agency. &#124; 7Wins.eu</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Over Artist&#8230; Do I Need An Agent? « Cameron Anthony Parkdangerouslyawesome » Creative AgencyMLB Economics 2.0 -According to Ryan Braun, Hanley Ramirez, Troy Tulowitzki and Evan Logoria | RyanS&#8230;   Tags talent agency talent agent talent agencies small business booking agent talent agency agent [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Major League Baseball&#8217;s Economy 2.0 (Follow Up) &#124; RyanSpoon.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 02:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MLB Economics 2.0 -According to Ryan Braun, Hanley Ramirez, Troy Tulowitzki and Evan Logoria  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ryan

It certainly pays for teams like the Rays and Rockies to lock up their young stars.  Not only will they keep hold of them for longer, but they get a bit of financial certainty that otherwise wouldn&#039;t be there if they had to go to arbitration each year.  The Phillies were unable to lock-up Ryan Howard and that&#039;s left them in the position where they are paying $10m for him this year ($3m more than they wanted), and that figure is only going to rise in each of the next three years (if they don&#039;t trade him in the meantime).

I guess the &#039;problem&#039; teams face is that the player is well within their rights to go year to year and then hit a big pay day after six years of service as a free agent.  The Dodgers want to lock up Russell Martin, but he&#039;s happy not to go down that route.  If he doesn&#039;t get injured, he&#039;s almost guaranteed to earn a lot more money that way.  It depends whether a player wants to take that risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ryan</p>
<p>It certainly pays for teams like the Rays and Rockies to lock up their young stars.  Not only will they keep hold of them for longer, but they get a bit of financial certainty that otherwise wouldn&#8217;t be there if they had to go to arbitration each year.  The Phillies were unable to lock-up Ryan Howard and that&#8217;s left them in the position where they are paying $10m for him this year ($3m more than they wanted), and that figure is only going to rise in each of the next three years (if they don&#8217;t trade him in the meantime).</p>
<p>I guess the &#8216;problem&#8217; teams face is that the player is well within their rights to go year to year and then hit a big pay day after six years of service as a free agent.  The Dodgers want to lock up Russell Martin, but he&#8217;s happy not to go down that route.  If he doesn&#8217;t get injured, he&#8217;s almost guaranteed to earn a lot more money that way.  It depends whether a player wants to take that risk.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Linsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Linsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 06:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And while Moneyball was a fantastic book and I&#039;m firmly in the sabermetric camp, going back to read it now is a bit of a jarring lesson in how  rational people following good theories can get it totally wrong.  Example A is the chapter on the 2002 draft, which featured Beane and the A&#039;s staff gushing over Jeremy Brown and Brant Colamarino, (who &quot;might be the best hitter in the country!&quot; as the book quotes DePodesta) while sharply criticizing the picks of Jeremy Bonderman and Prince Fielder. Granted, when you add it all up and compare the results to other teams,  the A&#039;s 2002 draft was definitely a success, albeit not an overwhelming one. Nevertheless, it still shows the dangers of broad generalizations and putting too much faith in theories - I would expect that a couple of the contracts in your first category, especially A-Rod&#039;s, will end up giving their team substantially more production per dollar than most of the players in your second list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And while Moneyball was a fantastic book and I&#8217;m firmly in the sabermetric camp, going back to read it now is a bit of a jarring lesson in how  rational people following good theories can get it totally wrong.  Example A is the chapter on the 2002 draft, which featured Beane and the A&#8217;s staff gushing over Jeremy Brown and Brant Colamarino, (who &#8220;might be the best hitter in the country!&#8221; as the book quotes DePodesta) while sharply criticizing the picks of Jeremy Bonderman and Prince Fielder. Granted, when you add it all up and compare the results to other teams,  the A&#8217;s 2002 draft was definitely a success, albeit not an overwhelming one. Nevertheless, it still shows the dangers of broad generalizations and putting too much faith in theories &#8211; I would expect that a couple of the contracts in your first category, especially A-Rod&#8217;s, will end up giving their team substantially more production per dollar than most of the players in your second list.</p>
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